From: Paul Robinson <[log in to unmask]>
Organization: Tansin A. Darcos & Company, Silver Spring, MD USA
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Carl Reimann <[log in to unmask]>, writes,
quoting  Eric Thomas <[log in to unmask]>
 
> >What worries me in fact is that the notice sounds more like
> >guidelines than like a disclaimer. [deletion] [W]hat you wanted to
> >say is that the list moderator can't be held responsible if this
> >happens, because he has no control over the subscribers.
>
> This is indeed what I'd like to say. In only a few words, if
> possible. I'm in favor of helping to lay down a few guidelines, but
> what matters to me most is simply that there's nothing I can do to
> control the use made of and destinations of posts made to the list.
> Are there sample disclaimers about that I could use? I've done a
> search for "disclaim" in the lstown-l archives, but what I pulled
> up are a lot of messages with a disclaimer at the end! ;-)
 
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should assume that anything you write in a public message should be
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page of the {International Herald Tribune}, {New York Times} or {Jerusalem
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Please Feel Free to recirculate this notice.
Paul Robinson, Tansin A. Darcos & Company <[log in to unmask]>
October 18, 1993
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