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John Lyon <[log in to unmask]>
Mon, 15 Dec 2003 11:19:20 -0500
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> Folks,
>
> I and another former alum manage two lists on behalf of my highschool, with
> some 1500 names on one list, and a small subset of this on as another lists
> with about 150 names.  Our list is hosted at Whathelps.com, a listserv

> Any advice would be welcome  - example below for a list named ECOLINT.
> service.
>
> I am my co-manager are relative novices and have not mastered the mechanics
> of probing, etc.  When an infrequent message goes out on the main list, I
> get about 150 error msgs.  We get about 20 on the sublist. 
>
> Fortunately, these lists are not that active, the main one has about 2 msgs
> a month, the sub has about 4 per week.  The error msgs all having to do
> with email address problems.  The obvious ones (for example, box over
> quota) are not an issue.
>
> But we don't seem to be able to master having the listserv eventually
> delete addresses that are dead.

> Any advice would be welcome  - example below for a list named ECOLINT.

In order for the Auto-Delete feature to do it's job it must be set
according to the posting habits of each list. If set up incorrectly, you
either never remove bad addresses or you remove good addresses with
temporary ISP problems.

For your first list I would recommend this:
Auto-Delete=Yes,Full-Auto,Delay(35),Max(4),Probe(5)
(or Semi-auto if you prefer)

For the second list:
Auto-Delete=Yes,Full-Auto,Delay(15),Max(8),Probe(20)
(or Semi-auto if you prefer)

The Auto-Delete keyword is the most complicated and misunderstood. Reading
and the understanding the manual on this one is a must.
http://www.lsoft.com/info/default.asp?item=manuals


> The enclosed message has been identified as a delivery error for the
> ECOLINT list because it was sent to [log in to unmask]
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> |------------------------- Message log follows: -------------------------|
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> Nov 2003 13:49:29 EST Reply-To:     [log in to unmask] From:         TekHelp
> CHI Ecolint <[log in to unmask]> Subject: [ECOLINT-NEWS]
> =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ecolint=20Alumni=20-=20Escalade=A0=202003?= To:          
> [log in to unmask] Precedence: list
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> --part1_129.363bdb73.2cfa4439_boundary
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>
> FROM SUE ANTHONY REGARDING ESCALADE REUNIONS
>
> Escalade 2003=20
>
> Just a reminder that alumni will be celebrating Escalade
>
> ET CETERA

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