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"Peter M. Weiss +1 814 863 1843" <[log in to unmask]>
Sat, 22 Feb 1997 10:39:00 EST
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>When I try to un-subscribe from this list using the same address that I used
>to subscribe, I'm told that can't because I'm not subscribed. Nevertheless,
>LSTOWN mail keeps rolling in relentlessly.
>Please advise.

Do you follow the advice in the generated nastygram?
Also, try a

UNSUB LSTOWN-L (GLOBAL

BTW, you might want to inspect the headers of this mail
message to see the routing to you -- sometimes there
is a clue in there.  (BTW some folks use the term
subscribe for when they have included a Usenet group
in their news-reader configuration.)



Date:         Sat, 22 Feb 1997 10:30:43 -0500
From:         "L-Soft list server at Penn State (1.8c)" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject:      Your request to sign off the xxx-L list
To:           [log in to unmask]
Reply-To:     [log in to unmask]

Sat, 22 Feb 1997 10:30:43

No entry for your [log in to unmask] address  could be found in the xxx-L
list at  PSUVM.PSU.EDU. Here  are a  number of  possible reasons  why you
might still be getting mail from the list:

1. You could be subscribed under a different, but equivalent address. For
instance, if  your e-mail address  as it appears  in the 'From:'  line of
messages coming from you has the  misfortune of depending on the distance
between your  workstation and the  terminal room door, you  were probably
subscribed from  a different  address and, while  your mail  system knows
that the two addresses are equivalent,  LISTSERV has no way to know that.
In this case the only thing you can do, beyond contacting the list owner,
is to send  a "REVIEW xxx-L" command  to find out under  what address you
are  subscribed, and  try to  duplicate  it with  the help  of your  user
support people.

2. If you are a BITNET user,  you might be subscribed under your Internet
address and sending  this command via BITNET, or vice  versa. Most BITNET
sites  have  registered their  Internet  addresses  in the  BITNET  nodes
database, BITEARN NODES (the "tag"  containing this information is called
':internet' - if you do not understand  any of this, just bring a copy of
this message to your user support people). Unfortunately, some sites have
still not done that,  and in such cases LISTSERV has  no way to determine
that, for  instance, BITNET  node XYZCOL1  is the  same as  Internet host
VM3.XYZ.EDU. If  you suspect  this might be  your problem,  try resending
your request via both interactive message (SEND under VMS, TELL under VM)
and e-mail.

3. You  might be subscribed under  an equivalent yet different  address -
for  instance, one  with explicit  gatewaying, or  an X.400  address with
different  ordering of  the various  components,  etc. You  could send  a
"REVIEW  xxx-L" command  and  inspect  the list  membership  to find  out
whether this is the case, and ask  the list owners to remove that address
from the list.

4. You could be subscribed to  the list under another account, from which
mail is being automatically forwarded to your [log in to unmask] account.
In  that case  you should  be able  to leave  the list  by resending  the
signoff request from the account in question.

5. You could be subscribed to the list indirectly, via a "redistribution"
list. That is, one  of the subscribers to the LISTSERV list  is in fact a
mailing  list, to  which  you  are yourself  subscribed  (note that  this
"sub-list"  is not  necessarily managed  by LISTSERV  and, in  fact, such
lists are often manually maintained, in  which case the only way to leave
the list is  to contact the person  who maintains it). Since  you are not
directly subscribed  to xxx-L, the only  way for you to  stop getting the
postings is to  contact the administrators of this sub-list  and ask them
to sign you off.

You should be able to contact the  list owners by simply replying to this
message (if you  do not know how  to reply to a message  in your mailbox,
you can send a new message to [log in to unmask] instead).

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