AOL is still upgrading and bouncing all of us.  I subscribe to my lists
from 3 servers, but only aol made it on to the daily error monitoring report.
Then, to add insult to injury, it informed us that my co-listowner is unknown
at AOL.

I've stopped reacting to AOL errors temporarily.

GrannyBarb

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On Sat, 18 Oct 1997, Automatic digest processor wrote:

> There are 5 messages totalling 128 lines in this issue.
>
> Topics of the day:
>
>   1. AOL having problems again (still)? (2)
>   2. Usenet gateway (3)
>
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>
> Date:    Fri, 17 Oct 1997 08:02:53 EDT
> From:    Elliott Parker <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: AOL having problems again (still)?
>
> I just got a few hundred addresses bounced from AOL with the error
> "421 service not available"
>     Does anybody have any idea what this means?  I did get a note
> from AOL a few days ago saying they would probably be bouncing mail
> while upgrading some mail servers.  Can I assume they are still
> in process?
>
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> Elliott Parker                   [log in to unmask]
> List Owner, FOODWINE and CARR-L  [log in to unmask]
> Department of Journalism
> Central Michigan University
> Mt. Pleasant, MI 48859 USA
> Office tele: +1 517 774 3196     <URL:mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Fri, 17 Oct 1997 09:11:37 -0500
> From:    Anne H Toal <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Usenet gateway
>
> What is the procedure one must go through to have AUVM remove a list from
> the ones they gate to usenet? And if the list members change their minds
> and want to resume gated operation, will AUVM be disinclined to restore it
> in the future?
>
> -aht
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Fri, 17 Oct 1997 10:51:48 -0400
> From:    Pete Weiss <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Usenet gateway
>
> The gatewaying from your list to the AMERICAN facilities can be directly
> controlled by you.  You can either unsubscribe to SET NOMAIL the
> NETEWS@americanhost subscriber.
>
> Vice versa would require more coordination esp. if your list is SEND=PUBLIC.
>
> At 09:11 10/17/97 -0500, you wrote:
> |What is the procedure one must go through to have AUVM remove a list from
> |the ones they gate to usenet?
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>
> Date:    Fri, 17 Oct 1997 09:32:22 -0600
> From:    Dan Lester <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Usenet gateway
>
> At 09:11 AM 10/17/97 -0500, you wrote:
> >What is the procedure one must go through to have AUVM remove a list from
> >the ones they gate to usenet? And if the list members change their minds
> >and want to resume gated operation, will AUVM be disinclined to restore it
> >in the future?
> >
> >-aht
> >
>
> Simply removing the subscription will end the gateway service.  I've done
> this for my lists already, as the Usenet feed was just too full of spam and
> stuff.  One list (buslib-l, for business librarians) went from 1000 to 1400
> active subscribers within a week of when the change was made, and a few
> whined, but we just couldn't handle it any more.
>
> However, the lists still exist in the bit.listserv.* hierarchy on many
> sites, containing nothing of substance, and I'd like to get ride of THOSE
> artifacts of the former lists.  How do we do THAT?
>
> dan
>
> Dan Lester
> [log in to unmask]
> In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.  Erasmus, 1534
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Fri, 17 Oct 1997 17:11:58 GMT
> From:    Ben Parker <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: AOL having problems again (still)?
>
> On Fri, 17 Oct 1997 08:02:53 EDT, Elliott Parker
> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> >I just got a few hundred addresses bounced from AOL with the error
> >"421 service not available"
> >    Does anybody have any idea what this means?  I did get a note
> >from AOL a few days ago saying they would probably be bouncing mail
> >while upgrading some mail servers.  Can I assume they are still
> >in process?
>
> I just got several of these bouncing today.  Different DSN error number but
> same general idea:
>
> The mail you sent could not be delivered to:
> 550 [log in to unmask] is temporarily unavailable while we upgrade our system
> 550 [log in to unmask] is temporarily unavailable while we upgrade our system
> etc.
>
> Looks like they are still at work. since they have over 40 mail servers
> on-line it may take a while...  8-)
> --
>  ______________________________________________________________________
>  Ben Parker .......... (Aurora, CO) ........... [log in to unmask]
>
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