Hello fellow list-owners.

I seem to have encountered a rather strange series of bounces from one
subscriber's internet service provider.  I contacted them about a week ago
and got a response at that time saying that they were going to fix the
problem (something related to their servers refusing to relay among
themselves as I gather that mail.gelnhausen.net and pop3.main-kinzig.net
are from this same provider and are used as two seperate mail servers.

Below, you will find my latest correspondance with this provider and also
the error message which I have received from LISTSERV.  Does the
suggestion I am being given here make any sense, and if it does, how do I
tell LISTSERV to not capitalize the domain name by default if it is even
possible to do that?

Glenn Alperin
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                                        Date:     16-Oct-1998 03:59am EDT
                                        From:     Arne Kuhlmann
                                                  [log in to unmask]
                                        Dept:
                                        Tel No:

TO:  Glenn Alperin                        ( [log in to unmask] )


Subject: Re: Please help me again.

Hi,

yes I thought we had the problem fixed...
It seems to be a bug in the mail server.
Can you please change the users's e-mail address from @POP3.MAIN-KINZIG.NET to
@pop3.main-kinzig.net (lower case)??
This should take care of the problem.

Thanks,

Arne Kuhlmann



Glenn Alperin wrote:
>
> Hello there!
>
> I contacted you a few days ago to report a similar problem with your
> server, and to date have had no further problems, but just today, I
> received two such notices that relaying between mail.gelnhausen.net and
> pop3.main-kinzig.net is not allowed.  As I discovered a few days ago when
> I had e-mailed you at that point in time, I was informed that these two
> servers should not have such difficulties with relaying to each other
> since you are running both servers.  Please correct this problem again
> when you have a spare moment as I have a subscriber to my list who is
> probably wondering where his mail from the list is.  Additionally, to
> preserve confidentiality of my list, I have removed the user's login name
> from this error report and replaced it with the characters "x" where his
> login name would ordinarily go.
>
> Sincerely,
> Glenn Alperin
> [log in to unmask]
> list-owner (in name only) of faceblind
>
> The header information of the error message appears below for your
> reference.
> ________________________________________________________________________________
>
>                                         Date:     15-Oct-1998 11:12am EDT
>                                         From:     L-Soft list server at St. John
>                                                   [log in to unmask]
>                                         Dept:
>                                         Tel No:
>
> TO:  Glenn Alperin                        ( [log in to unmask] )
>
> Subject: FACEBLIND: error report from MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU
>
> The enclosed message, found in the  FACEBLIND mailbox and shown under the spool
> ID 12028470 in the system log, has been identified as a possible delivery error
> notice for the  following reason: "Message/Delivery-Status" body  part found in
> the message body.
>
> ------------------------ Message in error (52 lines) --------------------------
> Date:       Thu, 15 Oct 1998 12:07:12 -0500
> Reply-to:   [log in to unmask]
> From:       "LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a" <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject:    Undelivered mail
> To:         [log in to unmask]
> X-Report-Type: Nondelivery; boundary="> Error description:"
>
> An error was detected while processing the enclosed message.  A list of
> the affected recipient follows.   This list is in a special format that
> allows software like LISTSERV to automatically take action on incorrect
> addresses; you can safely ignore the numeric codes.
>
> --> Error description:
> Error-for:  [log in to unmask]
> Error-Code: 3
> Error-Text: Mailer mail.gelnhausen.net said:
>             "550 relaying mail to POP3.MAIN-KINZIG.NET is not allowed"
>
> Error-End:  One error reported.
>
> ------------------------------ Original message ------------------------------
> Received: from maelstrom.stjohns.edu by maelstrom.stjohns.edu (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <[log in to unmask]>; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 12:07:01 -0500
> Date:         Thu, 15 Oct 1998 11:52:06 -0500
> Reply-To:     faceblind The Face Blind Folks <[log in to unmask]>
> Sender:       faceblind The Face Blind Folks <[log in to unmask]>
> From:         xxxxx xxxxxxx <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject:      Re: Hoplessness???(was Re: psychobabble)
> To:           [log in to unmask]
> In-Reply-To:  <[log in to unmask]>
>
> <Message text removed to preserve anonimity>