A list member is getting more and more "probe failed" messages. Note: they seem to have started on Feb 03 and are bouncing around in cyberspace. She is getting 18 of these a day. HELP ! I can't figure out why they are still arriving. I thought that even if her ISP bounced the first probe message on 2/3 they would have stopped by now. Of interest is that she received NONE over the weekend, but 18 today. any thoughts ?? -- - bill - co-listown IRWOLF-L -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Probe failure for IRWOLF-L Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 15:11:44 -0500 From: "L-Soft list server at Apple (1.8d)" <[log in to unmask]> To: Martha Ryan <[log in to unmask]> Mon, 14 Feb 2000 15:11:44 [log in to unmask] has just received the enclosed delivery error as a result of a probe sent to your [log in to unmask] account for the IRWOLF-L list. If you are reading this message, it means that your mail system is successfully delivering mail to your mailbox, while at the same time reporting that an error has occurred (or, alternatively, the error could be due to a system problem which has since then been fixed). At any rate, LISTSERV has no way to know that you have actually received the present message, and is operating on the assumption that your e-mail address is no longer valid. Typically, LISTSERV will send you one or more additional probe messages, on a daily basis, to determine whether the failure persists, and if so you will be removed from the list eventually. Some lists are configured to remove users on the first failure. Assuming you have not been removed from the list yet, you can stop this process by sending the following command to [log in to unmask] as soon as possible: CONFIRM IRWOLF-L This will tell LISTSERV that your account actually does work and that you still want to receive mail from the IRWOLF-L list. While the CONFIRM command will solve your immediate problem, it is only a matter of time until you find yourself in the same situation again. Please take a look at the enclosed error report and try to determine whether it is a genuine error, or just an informational message. Bear in mind that this error report was processed by a computer that cannot tell "User JAIME24 does not exist" from "Please note that the Department of Microbiology will be closed from December 19 to January 2" or "Attempts to deliver your message have been unsuccessful for 300 seconds; will keep trying for another 431700 seconds." These informational messages, while possibly useful to a human reader, should not be sent in answer to a message coming from a mailing list (it is very easy for the mail program to determine whether a message is coming from a mailing list). Genuine errors should be reported to your computer/network support staff as soon as possible so that they can be corrected. ------------------------- Delivery error report ------------------------- Received: from glacier.purplemtn.com by mango.ease.lsoft.com (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <[log in to unmask]>; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 15:11:31 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost) by glacier.purplemtn.com (Build 93 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with internal id MAA06004; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 12:58:22 -0700 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 12:58:22 -0700 From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <[log in to unmask]> Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]> To: <owner-irwolf-l*elkhorn**PURPLEMTN*[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status; boundary="MAA06004.950558302/glacier.purplemtn.com" Subject: Returned mail: Cannot send message within 5 days Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure) This is a MIME-encapsulated message --MAA06004.950558302/glacier.purplemtn.com The original message was received at Thu, 03 Feb 2000 10:17:37 -0700 from demo.lsoft.com [209.119.0.46] ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- <[log in to unmask]> ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument Warning: message still undelivered after 4 hours Will keep trying until message is 5 days old 451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument Warning: message still undelivered after 4 hours Will keep trying until message is 5 days old 451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument Warning: message still undelivered after 4 hours Will keep trying until message is 5 days old 451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument Warning: message still undelivered after 4 hours Will keep trying until message is 5 days old 451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument Warning: message still undelivered after 4 hours Will keep trying until message is 5 days old 451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument Warning: message still undelivered after 4 hours Will keep trying until message is 5 days old 451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument Warning: message still undelivered after 4 hours Will keep trying until message is 5 days old 451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument Warning: message still undelivered after 4 hours Will keep trying until message is 5 days old 451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument Warning: message still undelivered after 4 hours Will keep trying until message is 5 days old 451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument Warning: message still undelivered after 4 hours Will keep trying until message is 5 days old 451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument 451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument Warning: message still undelivered after 4 hours Will keep trying until message is 5 days old 451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument 451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument Warning: message still undelivered after 4 hours Will keep trying until message is 5 days old 451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument Warning: message still undelivered after 4 hours Will keep trying until message is 5 days old 451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument 451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument Message could not be delivered for 5 days Message will be deleted from queue 451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument Message could not be delivered for 5 days Message will be deleted from queue 451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument Message could not be delivered for 5 days Message will be deleted from queue 451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument Message could not be delivered for 5 days Message will be deleted from queue 451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument Message could not be delivered for 5 days Message will be deleted from queue 451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument 451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument 451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument 451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument Message could not be delivered for 5 days Message will be deleted from queue 451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument Message could not be delivered for 5 days Message will be deleted from queue 451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument Message could not be delivered for 5 days Message will be deleted from queue 451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument Message could not be delivered for 5 days Message will be deleted from queue 451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument Message could not be delivered for 5 days Message will be deleted from queue 451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument 451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument Message could not be delivered for 5 days Message will be deleted from queue 451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument Message could not be delivered for 5 days Message will be deleted from queue 451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument Message could not be delivered for 5 days Message will be deleted from queue 451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument Message could not be delivered for 5 days Message will be deleted from queue 451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument Message could not be delivered for 5 days Message will be deleted from queue 451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument Message could not be delivered for 5 days Message will be deleted from queue 451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument Message could not be delivered for 5 days Message will be deleted from queue 451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument Message could not be delivered for 5 days Message will be deleted from queue 451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument Message could not be delivered for 5 days Message will be deleted from queue 451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument 451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument Message could not be delivered for 5 days Message will be deleted from queue 451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument Message could not be delivered for 5 days Message will be deleted from queue 451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument Message could not be delivered for 5 days Message will be deleted from queue 451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument Message could not be delivered for 5 days Message will be deleted from queue 451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument Message could not be delivered for 5 days Message will be deleted from queue 451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument Message could not be delivered for 5 days Message will be deleted from queue 451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument Message could not be delivered for 5 days Message will be deleted from queue 451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument Message could not be delivered for 5 days Message will be deleted from queue 451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument Message could not be delivered for 5 days Message will be deleted from queue 451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument Message could not be delivered for 5 days Message will be deleted from queue 451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument Message could not be delivered for 5 days Message will be deleted from queue 451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument 451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument Message could not be delivered for 5 days Message will be deleted from queue 451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument Message could not be delivered for 5 days Message will be deleted from queue 451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument Message could not be delivered for 5 days Message will be deleted from queue 451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument Message could not be delivered for 5 days Message will be deleted from queue 451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument 451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument Message could not be delivered for 5 days Message will be deleted from queue 451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument Message could not be delivered for 5 days Message will be deleted from queue 451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument Message could not be delivered for 5 days Message will be deleted from queue 451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument Message could not be delivered for 5 days Message will be deleted from queue --MAA06004.950558302/glacier.purplemtn.com Content-Type: message/delivery-status Reporting-MTA: dns; glacier.purplemtn.com Arrival-Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 10:17:37 -0700 Final-Recipient: RFC822; <[log in to unmask]> Action: failed Status: 4.4.7 Remote-MTA: DNS; local Last-Attempt-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 12:58:22 -0700 --MAA06004.950558302/glacier.purplemtn.com Content-Type: message/rfc822 Return-Path: <owner-irwolf-l*elkhorn**PURPLEMTN*[log in to unmask]> Received: from mango.ease.lsoft.com (demo.lsoft.com [209.119.0.46]) by glacier.purplemtn.com (Build 93 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA15536 for <[log in to unmask]>; Thu, 03 Feb 2000 10:17:37 -0700 Received: from mango (demo.lsoft.com) by mango.ease.lsoft.com (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <[log in to unmask]>; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 12:15:37 -0500 Received: from APPLE.EASE.LSOFT.COM by APPLE.EASE.LSOFT.COM (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 20292115 for [log in to unmask]; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 12:13:30 -0500 Received: from rewrite1.san.cerf.net by mango.ease.lsoft.com (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <[log in to unmask]>; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 12:13:29 -0500 Received: from cerfnet.com (default42.isdn-sd1.cerfnet.com [206.19.212.42]) by rewrite1.san.cerf.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA07430 for <[log in to unmask]>; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 17:14:19 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <[log in to unmask]> <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 20:17:31 -0800 Reply-To: Irish Wolfhound discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Irish Wolfhound discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Chris Drew <[log in to unmask]> Subject: [IW-L] genetic tongue dropsy versus the "just stopped by for a pitty pat" To: [log in to unmask] bill said: > genetic condition and I have no control.......By the way, now that I put > my tongue on your plate can I have it ?" Or my fave is to be peacefully reading a book, watching tv, listening to music or whatever and you just happen to have a small but highly desirable morsel you are idly conveying to your own lips, savoring the peaceful moment when...out of nowhere a nose suddenly slips under your elbow and with a swift move, the elbow is flipped up and the morsel careens from your fingers to arc across the room. And the hound is standing there looking so dumbfounded like "Now HOW did that happen? Have you got the jitters? Gosh and Golly, I had no idea. Well, since it IS dirty and I am the crumb patrol...wouldn't want it to be just left laying around, would we?" Another dog story: One of my favorite men of all times was talking to me on the phone and I heard his IW start this caterwauling. I mean making the most dreadful racket. He would hold the phone away and I could hear him yelling at his girl KoDe who would simmer down and she wouldn't even pause in this dreadful howling whine. He had opened a bag of Tortilla Chips and she was not allowed in the hallway where he was talking on the phone and she wanted her chips. I am surprised no one called the humane society because she definitely sounded like she was being slowly tortured. He was so mad at her he was bound and determined she would NOT have a chip and he was going to finish his conversation with me without being interrupted. KoDe was absolutely positive her man was just overlooking her presence and had forgotten about her. She started rolling around and crawling on her belly down the hallway and I could hear this OooooOooooOoowooowoowooOOoowoowoo <scrabble scrabble> *whimper whimper* snivel snivel...oooowwwwwooooooooooooowooooo...