Forgot to say, the LISTDB MEMO is not avaialble from my host site (registered but no physically present). That shouldn't have an effect on the operation of the search program, I wouldn't think, but is it possible they are running a 1.8c version of the search program even though the rest of it is 1.8d? And that is why the "keyword index" stuff mentioned in the LISTDB MEMO I got from peach.ease doesn't work? I know it's not the old VM stuff, but some doesn't seem quite to jibe with the latest LISTDB either. douglas