What I was trying to avoid: People move on, and need to unsubscribe. People using the sublist would have to unsubscribe from two lists. They forget about one...usually ours...and the subscriber list gets bloated. I could add them to SEND=, on a persona by persona basis...but I know there would be cases where they'd disappear and I wouldn't notice. If there were a *generic* address for SEND, I could use that and not have to worry about people transferring in and out of the sublist. But...no wildcards means no generic addresses are possible. SEND= isn't a necessity, and not the simplest solution. Renew cuts out old, dead addresses...those dead for other reasons, too. Barb in Southern Indiana Zone 5/6 [log in to unmask] A root is a flower that disdains fame. > Though I'm a little confused by the original question, since sub-lists > are involved, perhaps a sub-list could be altered so that it has a > > SERVICE= *@*.university.edu, *@university.edu > > and then the main-list > > SEND= SEND = [log in to unmask], (sub-listname), (listname) >