Perhaps we can try to clarify the use of terms - or at least the way I understand and use them anyway.... in my experience, when an owner uses the ADD command (without the Quiet option), the new subscriber is sent a *notification* that they have been placed on the list. When the list subscription is Open,Confirm, and someone submits a SUBSCRIBE command, then they receive a *confirmation* message to which they must respond before actually being placed on the list. I think it would be nice if the ADD command had an option to trigger the "confirmation" process rather than simply placing the user on the list and sending a notification. For some lists being setup here, the owner wants to ADD everybody rather than sending out subscribe instructions, and sometimes their collections of email addresses have some inaccuracies - and as the LSMTP postmaster I wind up getting the delivery error reports. Not a really great big huge deal, I suppose, since the owner gets a report too - but having only the confirmation item failing instead of all the list traffic (since some bad addresses don't 'fail' until the 5-day retry expires) would reduce the scope of my annoyance somewhat. >>> [log in to unmask] 02/07/01 01:49PM >>> James, I've run the ADD command using Subscription=Open,Confirm Subscription=Open Subscription=By Owner Every time, I receive a confirmation message. I took a look at the List Owner's Manual and could not find any option to use to send cofirmations to some subscribers yet none to others. Am I way off the mark here? -----Original Message----- From: James Walker [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 1:42 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Forcing a confirmation email with SUBSCRIBE command The question should have read ADD command. Jim -----Original Message----- From: LISTSERV give-and-take forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Pete Weiss Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 1:37 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Forcing a confirmation email with SUBSCRIBE command Read the "Q" and then the "A" I'm a bit confused. I believe the WEB interface requires a emailed (to the supposed subscriber) CONFIRMATION when a new subscription is entered regardless of the second operand of the SUBSCRIPTION= keyword. Or perhaps the question was "when a list-owner does an ADD, can it force a confirmation?" (answer: No). /P At 13:23 02/07/2001 Wednesday, Keller, Richard (CIT) wrote: >SUBSCRIPTION=Open,Confirm > >When a user subscribes to a list, this configuration will send a >confirmation to the address in the 'From' line of the email. > >-----Original Message----- >From: James Walker [mailto:[log in to unmask]] >Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 1:21 PM >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Forcing a confirmation email with SUBSCRIBE command > > >A confirmation message is sent when the list's configuration >has "SUBSCRIPTION = OPEN" and A=1 is passed as a query string to wa.exe. Is >there a similar SUBSCRIBE command option that entered by the list owner >would send the confirmation message to the new subscriber? End Reply