This isn't the best place to ask, but I'll ask anyway; trying to get a rough idea what it would cost if one of my lists were at LSOFT rather than a university. Say, 5,000 subscribers; traffic on Sat. & Sun. 0 - 5 per day, weekdays 20 - 65 (threshold 65); unlimited archives (currently everything from 91/1/1, which must be preserved); listowners take care of all listowner functions; sub= open,confirm reply-to= both,respect send=editor editor= owner@address,LISTNAME, notify= owner@address, etc. What, rough estimate, would a list like that cost if bought the service from LSOFT? I have no intention of trying to move the list, just trying to get a rough idea of what we are getting for 'free' from our university host site. Douglas