Hi This is a request for free list hosting for a discussion list on spam / net abuse related issues among Indian ISPs / webhosts / freemail providers (somewhat similar to the spam-l list - [log in to unmask]) I have already lined up several ISPs who are interested in participating. Those who are upstream of Indian ISPs (or are otherwise interested in net abuse / spam related issues pertraining to Indian ISPs) are welcome to join. [please see below for my posts to some local lists, describing the new list] I'd appreciate it if some kind soul on this list provides free hosting (the list itself is expected to be fairly low bandwidth - about a 100 or so subscribers, max, I expect). I'd gladly pay except that CAUCE India is something I and my buddies run on our own time, on a zero budget :) Please cc me / mail me offlist on replies as I am currently set to nomail on this list. Thanks -suresh -Suresh Ramasubramanian President, CAUCE India [log in to unmask] / http://india.cauce.org ___________________________________ From: Suresh Ramasubramanian Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 14:04:23 +0530 To: India-GII, Cyberlaw-India Cc: CAUCE India Comments Subject: query: Is there any list specifically for Indian ISPs? User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.17i Organization: Who? Me? Hi This is further to a post I made on India-Gii ... and my first post on Cyberlaw India. A brief intro: I'm president of CAUCE India <http://www.india.cauce.org>, the Indian chapter of one of the largest volunteer anti-spam organizations in the world <http://www.cauce.org> Right now, re several posts about curbing spam / cracking from Indian servers, here's a short summary of the major problems: 1. Lack of concrete provisions in an ISP's "terms of service" 2. Lack of standard operating procedures to enforce these terms, even if the appropriate clauses exist. 3. Absence of regularly monitored postmaster and abuse accounts (these are required to exist and be monitored, as per several RFCs) - even in the case of ISPs like VSNL 4. Lack of awareness of spam / cracking related issues among ISP helpdesk personnel, leading to mishandled complaints. 5. Lack of security consciousness among several Indian ISPs, who run open relay smtp servers (permitting unauthorized users to relay mail), unpatched servers which are vulnerable to being cracked, etc. There are, in fact, several lists where ISP systems administrators participate (such as the linux lists) and others where ISP management participates. However, there is no common list right now (such as the lists hosted on isp-lists.isp-planet.com) Thanks to Devdas Bhagat (who is an admin at Worldgatein.com, an ISP in Gujarat - and a CAUCE India member) I plan to start a list called isp-india, which will bring together admins / executives from ISPs and webhosts around India and which will be aimed at addressing: 1. Inter-ISP cooperation / contact re these issues 2. Discussion of anti-spam / cracking policies of ISPs (not exactly govt cyberlaws, which would be more within the purview of claw-in or gii) I'd request those of you who represent ISPs / webhosts / email providers here to give some feedback before I set this list up. regards --suresh ----- End forwarded message -----