On Mon, 20 Aug 2001 14:41:12 EDT, "Wayne T. Smith" <[log in to unmask]> said: > These two OoO problems are fairly easily addressed by LSoft by > enabling list owners or site managers to distribute posts with the one > or two non-standard, but defacto standard e-mail headers (e.g., > precedence bulk). IMHO, standing behind the argument of "no official > standard", if that is LSoft's argument, is not in the best interests of > LISTSERV nor its standing among MLMs. Please note that some of the biggest OoO offenders *are* in violation of the RFCs - for instance, the ones that reply to Listserv directly are in violation of RFC821, which requires that you NOT reply to any mail sent with an SMTP 'MAIL FROM:<>' (which is how Listserv sends its administrivia mail). Also, RFC1211 talks about owner- and and -request addresses in conjunction with mailing lists. The right solution is to send the offending users a note requesting that they use software that plays nice in the Internet community. For what it's worth, I am told that the primary offender (Outlook) fixes most of the issues in Outlook 2000 (however, I have *NOT* personally verified this). -- Valdis Kletnieks Operating Systems Analyst Virginia Tech