> Is there a WWW template for the main archive page? The one that starts: > > Search the archives > Post to the list > Join or leave the list (or change settings) > Manage the list (list owners only) > > I want to eliminate the "join or leave the list" option as this is causing > all sorts of confusion with our closed list -- people can't figure out the > interaction between the confirmation they do here, and getting list owner > approval, and they resent all the extra steps it takes to do it this way. > > Alternatively, if filling out this form could simply email the list owners > like an email Subscribe request does, without doing the extra > confirmation, that would be great too. If you have: Subscription= Closed in your list header ("closed list" as you say), "join or leave the list" will not be displayed, so I must assume you have something different. What do you have for Subscription= and Validate= ?