On 1 Oct 2001, John Lyon wrote: > If you have: Subscription= Closed in your list header ("closed list" as > you say), "join or leave the list" will not be displayed, so I must assume > you have something different. Sorry, you're right, I have: Subscription= By owner Validate= Yes,Confirm Any way to eliminate the WWW "join" option in this setup? The Validate docs don't refer to it, I did not realize Validate would affect it. Thanks, ----- Tom Rawson [log in to unmask]