Is there a WWW template for the main archive page? The one that starts: Search the archives Post to the list Join or leave the list (or change settings) Manage the list (list owners only) I want to eliminate the "join or leave the list" option as this is causing all sorts of confusion with our closed list -- people can't figure out the interaction between the confirmation they do here, and getting list owner approval, and they resent all the extra steps it takes to do it this way. Alternatively, if filling out this form could simply email the list owners like an email Subscribe request does, without doing the extra confirmation, that would be great too. Thanks for any advice. ----- Tom Rawson [log in to unmask]