Oh, and for those of you wondering how to get the mail headers to send to Pacbell, given that the messages have been caught by the spam-trap... If you have any lists where nonsubscriber posts are moderated, the post would have been send to the list's moderator for approval. So if you search in the main LISTSERV directory (\LISTSERV\MAIN on NT) for *.OK* files containing the offending email address, you will find the message there, full headers and all... Francoise