My goodness, what a bad-tempered person Douglas sounds. He has answered my question (contact LSOFT) but I'm delighted to say there is no-one on any of my lists who gets so irritated and worked-up, and, I must admit, I don't knowingly associate with anyone on or off lists who: " ...couldn't care less whether 'Morocco' is a kingdom, a republic, a black hole or a colony of the twelfth planet." Merry Christmas and a Happy new year to everyone - except Douglas. Dennis . Dennis Newson formerly University of Osnabrueck Germany List Manager CETEFL-L Moderator of various other EFL lists www.dennisnewson.de