selectively, it seemed.... On Thu, 13 Jun 2002, Winship wrote: > On Thu, 13 Jun 2002, Bill Blinn wrote: > > Some of us have been using LSoft software for perhaps only five years > > or so, as I have, and occasionally one of us might not get the > > terminology exactly right. > > Well, when it comes to commands it is not a matter of "terminolgy." > If you issue the command HOLD listname LISTSERV will do exatly > what you have told it to do, it will HOLD that list, that is, distribution > of postings to list are to be suspended until the list is FREEed. > If you issue a LOCK command, or there is an auto-LOCK due to conditions, > no one can subscribe, unsubscribe, etc., but distribution of postings will > continue, to those subscribed. > > LISTSERV doesn't care how long you've been using L-Soft products: HOLD and > LOCK are commands with defined meanings, and you had best not confuse them > as LISTSERV will not cut you any slack if you use HOLD when you mean LOCK, > and v-v. > Only five years experience? Heck, I was telling Eric how to change things > after one year (and he did, for a couple of major functions which are still > standard). Of course, I bothered to read all of the available > documentation for a year before I became a listowner, but that isn't > required to know the differenc between HOLD and LOCK. > > I also make mistakes when I reply to questions on this list. When I do > so I expect to be slapped down, vigorously. > > LISTSERV does not forgive, it is not lenient, nor forgiving, and certainly > not Christianly charitable, it doesn't give the benefit of the doubt, and > there is no "let's everyone get along together" or whatever, if you issue > the wrong command. If you get an auto-note from LISTERV that your list is > HELD, or that it is LOCKed, well, the note hints right there as to where > to start looking for the problem, and it doesn't say the list is HELD if > the list is LOCKed, nor does it say the list is LOCKed if the list is HELD. > > There was absolutely nothing wrong with the original question: what does it > mean when I get a "list held" message, and what should I do about it? > There definitely was something wrong with replies which suggessted he had > LOCKed his list. > > I have certainly gone off on the wrong tangent in replying to some > questions, but when I do I take my lumps. I don't moan "well, excuse me for > living and wasting the bandwidth" nor do I trot out some "let's all be > nice, now" junk. Douglas [log in to unmask] >