All list messages sent out by 1.8e have "Prececence: list". This is noted in the release notes; see the last entry of the section at http://www.lsoft.com/manuals/1.8e/relnotes/v18e-mnt.html#other . Nathan At 12:09 2002/07/05 -0400, Eva Kalman wrote: >There's still nothing in 1.8e that allows you to insert >"Precedence: bulk", is there? > >Apparently, OoO is a server-based rule in Exchange which >won't be triggered for messages with Precedence: bulk >(Exchange 2000 has also added "list"). I think it's >correct that Outlook 2000 now sends OoO messages to the >right place, but the problem still persists that mailing >list messages still trigger the OoO server-based rule. > >Eva Kalman >[log in to unmask] > >On Tue, 21 Aug 2001 10:22:29 -0400, Valdis Kletnieks ><[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > >On Mon, 20 Aug 2001 14:41:12 EDT, "Wayne T. Smith" <[log in to unmask]> >said: > > > >> These two OoO problems are fairly easily addressed by LSoft by > >> enabling list owners or site managers to distribute posts with the one > >> or two non-standard, but defacto standard e-mail headers (e.g., > >> precedence bulk). IMHO, standing behind the argument of "no official > >> standard", if that is LSoft's argument, is not in the best interests of > >> LISTSERV nor its standing among MLMs. > > > >Please note that some of the biggest OoO offenders *are* in violation of > >the RFCs - for instance, the ones that reply to Listserv directly are > >in violation of RFC821, which requires that you NOT reply to any mail > >sent with an SMTP 'MAIL FROM:<>' (which is how Listserv sends its > >administrivia mail). Also, RFC1211 talks about owner- and and -request > >addresses in conjunction with mailing lists. > > > >The right solution is to send the offending users a note requesting that > >they use software that plays nice in the Internet community. For what > >it's worth, I am told that the primary offender (Outlook) fixes most of > >the issues in Outlook 2000 (however, I have *NOT* personally verified >this). > > > >-- > > Valdis Kletnieks > > Operating Systems Analyst > > Virginia Tech