On Thu, Dec 19, 2002 at 10:44:43AM +1100, Michael Shannon wrote: > > it appears to me that you're looking in entirely the wrong place. > Whenever LISTSERV refers to a 'template' you'll almost always find it in > either the default.mailtpl or default.wwwtpl files. In your case, both > SUB-OPT and S2-RESULTS are in default.wwwtpl. See Chapter 9 of the Site > Manager's manual for details about changing templates. > > http://www.lsoft.com/manuals/1.8e/siteindex.html#_Toc9062443 Thanks. I grabbed a fresh copy of the (PDF) manual just in case the fresh copy I grabbed on Friday had changed. In Acrobat I searched for both of these strings and no occurrences in 364 pages. I read through chapter 9 and I still don't see them. I know how to change the templates as I changed the {TOP,BOTTOM}_BANNER_HTML values when I upgraded to 1.8e. My default.wwwtpl doesn't contain either of these templates either which is why I went hunting in the documentation. I'd just blindly create them but I'd rather know what they are supposed to look like so I don't create other problems. At least with {TOP,BOTTOM}_BANNER_HTML at least it was easy to guess what they were supposed to be because I had examples of what the text banners were already set as. However with the two templates above I can't find an example of them much less how/where they are used. An example of what both of these are supposed to look like or a copy of someone's default.wwwtpl would be much appreciated. Thanks. -steve