This feels like a change. A list owner goes to our list management web page but only sees the lists where she is *not* a quiet owner. I guess quiet owners are supposed to be very quiet :-) I see that she can type one of the list names in the "Narrow Selection" box and then she can work with the list. -- We could learn a lot from crayons: some are sharp, some are pretty, some are dull, some have weird names, and all are different colors...but they all exist very nicely in the same box. Bill Verity - 814-865-4758 Fax: 814-863-7049 215A Computer Building - Information Technology Services, Penn State University On my Mac, of course ;-)