On 30 Mar 2004, at 11:58, Ruth Poochigian wrote: >I'm the listowner for 4 lists and somehow I've been blocked from >everything...lstown-l as well as my own 4 lists. > >Any ideas? You may need to reply to me personally rather than replying from >the list. Since I'm not getting ANYthing! Ruths accounts on Maelstrom look OK to me and I've commented to her directly. However... many of our owners have seen the effects of what appears to have been a transient blacklisting by spamcop so I'm wondering if, in addition to the possibility she might have inadvertantly blocked herself at the AOL end, AOL uses spamcop. And, while on the subject, is anyone else getting fed up with bogus problems brought on by SpamCop? The individuals there are certainly cooperative and competent, but I'm beginning to think there's something fundamentally wrong about their procedures that lead to so many errors and misunderstandings. In Maelstrom's case we have no real control over our owners and a very tiny percentage have accidentally (or out of ignorance despite repeated warnings) reported us for spam sent via the *-request mechanism, and spamcop has been very understanding. None the less, I've spent too much time tracking down weird stuff (Curly gets a virus that sends itself to Listserv with a forged "from" from Moe who gets the rejection and promptly reports Maelstrom as a spammer) which I'm somehow obligated to explain to the net-cops. Apparently none of this caused us to get blocked, while yesterdays block happened with no warning and no explanation either before or after the fact. -Kary