I have not had any trouble with the current behavior. I have not noticed any unusual mass subscribe attempts to the lists shown on our archive page. On the other hand, I often see mass subscribe attempts for our lists that are confidential= no. So my guess is that the bad guys have not started trying to harvest lists on the archives pages. -- Cheerfulness is contagious, but don't wait to catch it from others. Be a "carrier". Bill Verity - 814-865-4758 Fax: 814-863-7049 215A Computer Building - Information Technology Services, Penn State University At the office - on my Mac, of course ;-)