Removing items from the archives aside, I wholeheartedly agree that the more things that can be ported to a web interface from "mail only" the better. -----Original Message----- From: LISTSERV site administrators' forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of UB Listserv Administrator Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2004 4:25 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: How to remove single message from archives? For me, from time to time archive editing is absolutely necessary, and an easier web-based method of doing it would be beneficial. I can see the concern that an overzealous listowner would be erasing email history, but policies and practices aside, we are talking about improving a method of something that is possible to begin with, so I'm all for forward progress. At least on a sysadmin level if not the list owner level. Plus the more 'by email only' things L-Soft can take and port to the web, it gives them that much more of a competitive product. Just my 2 cents. -Jim -- Jim Serwinowski [log in to unmask] UB Listserv Administrator http://listserv.acsu.buffalo.edu On Thu, 29 Apr 2004, Stan Horwitz wrote: > Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 09:32:23 -0400 > From: Stan Horwitz <[log in to unmask]> > Reply-To: LISTSERV site administrators' forum > <[log in to unmask]> > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: How to remove single message from archives? > > On Thu, 29 Apr 2004, Pete Weiss wrote: > > >At 18:33 04/28/2004 Wednesday, Brett Lettice wrote: > > >I agree, the current format of archives makes the removal of a single > > >message a rather cumbersome process, something that I have to go through all > > >to regularly. As a future enhancement request could archive management tools > > >be added to the listserv platform - something available at a list owner > > >level in the web interface? > > > >List-management is highly subjective; many folks believe you should never > >alter the archives. Archive editing is a slippery slope, especially as a > >personal time-sink. To a certain degree, it is even a exercise in > >futility especially if there are third-party (and unregulated, even > >personal) archives. > > > >I would be hard pressed to remember if I've ever done such a thing in the > >more than a decade of operating lists (that's not to say that I've never, > >I just can't recall). > > I couldn't agree more. Something is wrong if Listserv archives need to be > modified manually on a regular basis. My experience is similar to Pete's. > In the twelve years or so that I have been administering Listserv > installations, there can't be more than three or four times in that entire > period when I have been called upon to remove an unwanted postings and of > those, I think only one was for human generated content, the others were > viruses that managed to get into the archives. > > Ocassional requests of this nature come to me from the help desk here > (maybe one request every other year). My response is typically to refer > the list owner to the faq file. > > >