This was getting more and more frequent. So I looked at the logs a bit more closely and noticed that mail for a particular list was always arriving just before the crash. Turns out the 0501 log for this list was already over 100M. I just erased the whole darn thing. I suspect that will solve my problems. -- What happens when you illegally park a frog? It gets toad away. Bill Verity - 814-865-4758 Fax: 814-863-7049 215A Computer Building - Information Technology Services, Penn State University At the office - on my Mac, of course ;-)