Touch all of the unpacked files in the scratch directory, and run make update again. I thought the kit was supposed to do that, I'll double-check it and make sure it does in the future. Nathan At 03:38 PM 9/11/2005 -0400, Bill Verity wrote: >I have same situation. The "older" listkwd.file has a newer date >that matches when I installed 14.3. Looks like my stdcmd.file has >the same problem. My production version does not list the PUTALL >command, but the 14.4 version (that was not copied during the >install) does have this command. However, PUTALL has worked for me >for a long time. > >At 3:00 PM -0400 9/11/05, Dan Wheeler wrote > >Nathan, > > > >Bill Verity wrote: > >>Interesting. My listkwd.file did not update either. Strange. I > wonder what else didn't move over? > > > >Two of us have now reported that the update was incomplete - at > least one important file was not updated. > > > >Since you suggested that this might be a problem due to the > common.tar.Z file, I downloaded Linux-2.6.bin and ran it to repeat > the upgrade. The listkwd.file was not updated and the > Configuration-owner keyword still does not work. > > > >I suspect that the problem is due to the fact that my listkwd.file > from 14.3 has a date that is more recent than the file distributed > with 14.4. This is because I installed 14.3 so I could move files > over from another server that was running 14.3. Then I did the > upgrade to 14.4. The listkwd.file is dated 2005-09-01, the date I > installed 14.3. This is, of course, more recent than the 14.4 > distribution file which is dated 2005-04-19. > > > >I can easily copy over the listkwd.file, but I'm pretty sure there > were other files that were not updated. What is the best way to > recover from this situation? > > > >I also need to know how to avoid this problem in the first place. > I am also LISTSERV maintainer for another site currently running > LISTSERV for Solaris 14.3. We will soon be moving to a Linux box > and I was planning to use the same process on it: install 14.3 on > the Linux machine, copy the lists to it, and then upgrade to 14.4. > I have good reasons for not wanting to upgrade the Solaris machine. > > > >Thanks for your help. > > > >--Dan > > > >> > >>At 3:34 PM -0400 9/6/05, Dan Wheeler wrote: > >> > >>>Nathan, > >>> > >>>Nathan Brindle wrote: > >>> > >>>>It sounds like your ~listserv/home/listkwd.file is out of > date. How did you upgrade to 14.4? The new-fashioned .bin kit or > the old-fashioned tar.Z kit? > >>>> > >>>>If the latter, it sounds like you didn't download and apply > common.tar.Z along with Linux.tar.Z. > >>> > >>>Yes, I did it the old-fashioned tar.Z way. > >>> > >>>>(I'm assuming this is for the KIDLINK site which is running > Linux and not the UC site which is running Windows.) > >>> > >>>Yes, this is the Kidlink LISTSERV. We have both moved to a new > machine and upgraded from 14.3 to 14.4. The new machine is a SuSE > Enterprise Server 9 system with a 2.6 kernel. The old machine was a > Debian system with a 2.4 kernel. > >>> > >>>I did a completely fresh install of 14.3 from the tar.Z's on our > new machine. I then copied over all of our list and archive files > from our old 14.3 installation. This went smoothly and both the > lists themselves and the web archives worked smoothly. > >>> > >>>The next step was the upgrade to 14.4. I did unpacked the > tar.Z's and did a make update. It is possible that I unpacked the > wrong version of common.tar.Z but I don't think so. It seemed to > work smoothly. The release command shows: > >>> > >>>LISTSERV(R) for unix version 14.4, managed by: > >>>[log in to unmask] > >>> > >>>Master nodes file version: 2005-09-01 13:13:02 (VERS9922) > >>>NJE peers file version: 2005-09-01 13:13:01 > >>>Internet peers file version: 2005-09-02 15:05:07 > >>>Service file version: 2005-09-01 13:13:01 (VERS9922) > >>>Alias file version: 2005-09-01 13:13:01 > >>>Running under: Linux 2.6.5-7.191-default > >>>Build date: 19 Jun 2005 > >>> > >>> > >>>I have just downloaded common.tar.Z again from: > >>> > >>>ftp://ftp.lsoft.com/LISTSERV/UNIX/ > >>> > >>>The file information is: > >>> > >>>common.tar.Z 1663 KB 05/06/20 16:44:00 > >>> > >>>When I untar this, I find: > >>> > >>>-rw------- 1 wheeledd wheeledd 153219 May 21 2002 listkeyw.memo > >>> > >>>but there is no listkwd.file in it! > >>> > >>>I have also looked in my temporary install directory for 14.4 > and found this file: > >>> > >>>-rw------- 1 502 502 2653 2005-04-19 09:35 listkwd.file > >>> > >>>The temporary directory for 14.3 contains: > >>> > >>>-rw------- 1 15 users 2616 2004-11-30 21:38 listkwd.file > >>> > >>>This matches the file size for the file in my current 14.4 > installation. My tentative diagnosis is that the make update failed > to copy the new listkwd.file. > >>> > >>>What do you recommend that I do now? Is it enough to copy the > listkwd.file to the right place or are there other things I should check? > >>> > >>>--Dan > >>> > >>> > >>>>At 11:16 AM 9/5/2005 -0400, Dan Wheeler wrote: > >>>> > >>>>>Hi, > >>>>> > >>>>>I was very pleased to read about the new Configuration-Owner > keyword in version 14.4. This is exactly what we need. We have lots > of moderators who should be able to change subscriptions but should > NOT be messing around with the configuration. > >>>>> > >>>>>I upgraded our installation to 14.4 a few days ago and tried > to set the Configuration-Owner for one of our lists. This is what I got: > >>>>> > >>>>>>The following problems have been detected in the list header: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>* CONFIGURATION-OWNER= (KIDOWNZ) > >>>>>>Warning: There is no keyword by that name - check the spelling. > >>>>> > >>>>>I know that this is a keyword that only the LISTSERV > maintainer can change, but I am the LISTSERV maintainer. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Peace, Dan > >>>>> > >>>>>=> Daniel D. Wheeler - Education & Psychology, Univ. of Cincinnati > >>>>>==> Email: [log in to unmask] URL: http://wheeler.uc.edu > >>>>>===> Teaching Human Rights Online: http://oz.uc.edu/thro > >>>>>====> KIDLINK: http://www.kidlink.org > >>> > >>>-- > >>> Peace, Dan > >>> > >>>=> Daniel D. Wheeler - Education & Psychology, Univ. of Cincinnati > >>>==> Email: [log in to unmask] URL: http://wheeler.uc.edu > >>>===> Teaching Human Rights Online: http://oz.uc.edu/thro > >>>====> KIDLINK: http://www.kidlink.org > >> > >> > >> > > > >-- > > Peace, Dan > > > >=> Daniel D. Wheeler - Education & Psychology, Univ. of Cincinnati > >==> Email: [log in to unmask] URL: http://wheeler.uc.edu > >===> Teaching Human Rights Online: http://oz.uc.edu/thro > >====> KIDLINK: http://www.kidlink.org > > >-- >Whoever said you can't buy happiness forgot about puppies. > >Bill Verity - 814-865-4758 Fax: 814-863-7049 >215A Computer Building - Information Technology Services, Penn State >University >At the office - on my Mac, of course ;-)