This is an old topic, and I know it, and I've been through the archives and I'm still confused. I found the release notes for 1.8d addressing this partly, but it doesn't resolve the issue. I think what I would like is something like Service=* and Confidential=Local i.e., anyone anywhere can subscribe, but the list will not appear in Catalist or Lists Global. Except Confidential=Local isn't valid. What am I missing? Thanks in advance for help. -- Syracuse University Listserv List Manager -- Listserv webpage: http://listserv.syr.edu -- Web access to List Archives, Manuals, and List Management for Owners.