Just an fyi. When a list is set to Send= Editor,hold,confirm,non-member, mail from a non-member appears on the moderation screen even before the non-member has OK'd it. If and when the non-member approves it, the editor is THEN sent mail to give their OK or not. Probably a reasonable practice, since the editor might want to approve it when the non-member can't for some reason. It does force the editor to wade through more spam, which is that the "confirm,non-member" was trying to minimize. If you never use the moderation page, you will never be confused by this behavior. -- Bill Verity - 814-865-4758 Fax: 814-863-7049 Listserv Administrator 215A Computer Building - Information Technology Services, Penn State University At the office - on my Mac, of course ;-)