We plan to run Spamassasin on our listserv machine to identify spam as soon as we have a faster machine. Question is what to do with it after it is identified. Our thought is to simply reject any mail that scores "high" from spamassassin. The value of high is yet to be determined. This may make spamcop at little happier, but probably not enough to keep us off their list. -- Did you ever notice that when you blow in a dog's face, he gets mad at you, but when you take him for a car ride, he sticks his head out the window? Bill Verity - 814-865-4758 Fax: 814-863-7049 215A Computer Building - Information Technology Services, Penn State University At the office - on my Mac, of course ;-)