What's wrong with "tough love?" BTW, I assume you could "cheat" and subscribe a universal userid/password (but set it to NOMAIL NOPOST) e.g., QUIET ADD listname [log in to unmask] universal signin QUIET SET listname NOMAIL NOPOST NOREV FOR [log in to unmask] create a password (you may need listserv maintainer involvement) Then tell every subscriber the sign-on userid / password and when prompted, save it as a cookie when using the WWW interface to search