It appears that your LISTSERV is actually making contact with an SMTP server, but it seems that server is the LISTSERV system, not your mail server. In the log clip you posted, the message did not "die in LISTSERV" but was refused by the system LISTSERV was trying to deliver to - because that system did not have a matching local user for the mail recipient. What do you have for the SMTP_FORWARD keyword in your SITE.CFG file? You *should* have the fully-qualified name of an SMTP server that is willing to receive mail from LISTSERV and relay that mail to the destination; this should NOT be the name of the machine running your LISTSERV setup. Also check for SMTP_FORWARD_.... keyword values. Have you stopped/started LISTSERV since making changes? Messages leaving LISTSERV do not go via SMTPL, that is for incoming only. To send messages, LISTSERV wants to make contact with an SMTP server other than itself, and that server must be configured to accept mail from LISTSERV addressed to any destination. >>> [log in to unmask] 6/22/2007 5:34:17 PM >>> I have taken lsmtp off my server and am trying to go back to using smtpl with a smtp forward of our mail server. Problem is I can't get it to work. In looking at the logs messages come in and are processed but not sent out by smtpl. Example below, I have gone over all the settings over and over again and it just wont work in going to an outside server. I can start xwall to run as the servr inbound and outbound smtp client and it works, i have to set listserv to listen on port 24 as xwall requires that. The messages come in thru xwall are process by smtpl and listserv and our sent back to wall and then out to the world. Below is the log clip i have when not using wall messages come in thru smtpl and they die in listserv. <220 LIST.NATCA.NET ready. 22 Jun 2007 15:04:43 >EHLO list 22 Jun 2007 15:04:43 <500 Unknown command. 22 Jun 2007 15:04:43 -> EHLO list 22 Jun 2007 15:04:43 500 Unknown command. 22 Jun 2007 15:04:43 -> EHLO support disabled. 22 Jun 2007 15:04:43 >HELO list 22 Jun 2007 15:04:43 <250 Go ahead. 22 Jun 2007 15:04:43 >MAIL FROM:<[log in to unmask]> 22 Jun 2007 15:04:43 <250 Go ahead. 22 Jun 2007 15:04:43 >RCPT TO:<[log in to unmask]> 22 Jun 2007 15:04:43 <550 Recipient not local. 22 Jun 2007 15:04:43 -> RCPT TO:<[log in to unmask]> 22 Jun 2007 15:04:43 550 Recipient not local. 22 Jun 2007 15:04:43 -> No recipient left, message aborted. Any ideas what i am doing wrong? thanks -- Tim