send=public is practically begging for trouble. The list name will get discovered by some spammer/virus/trojan and the list will become the target of junk mail and it will distribute the junk mail, unless you put some kind of protective measures in place. A good spam-detector/filter in the incoming mail path will help, but none of those are perfect and some garbage will get through. Configuring the list to have all items moderated will help keep the list itself clean, but will drive the moderator nuts wading through the garbage that gets through. There is the confirm,non-member option that can reduce the garbage flow, at the price of extra work for those who send to the list without being subscribed. We're even seeing incoming spam targeted to lists that were CONFIDENTIAL=YES at the moment of initial creation, so somebody somewhere received traffic from them and then was compromised by virus/trojan/hacker or something, is all I can figure - but there is no way I can identify that will reveal where the spam-generator got the list address. If you have to have general-audience subscribers, apparently it is impossible to completely conceal the existence and identity of a list. >>> [log in to unmask] 10/18/2007 9:15:13 AM >>> Follow up for viagra emails. I have had numerous calls like below. These students all belonged to a particular open listserv list with replies to sender. I have closed the list for now. Aren't these messages actually coming from the list and maybe appearing to come from the user? List is send= public. I believe we may require in the future that if a public list is requested that it be edited. Any thoughts appreciated. spam is being sent out from user's email account she is receiving emails from other JMU users who have received the messages to remove them from her list this problem has been occurring for multiple people told user to email [log in to unmask] Steve Eckard IT Specialist James Madison University MSC 5735 568-8191