Ben, So what you are telling me is that the entire archive of Histarch (1994 - 2016) is gone. Not only is that extremely upsetting, but I wonder if I really want to resurrect the list with another host and try again. *Anita Cohen* SEO and Social Media Management, MySearchGuru [image: photo] Phone: 888-325-3105 Email: [log in to unmask] Website: http://mysearchguru.com <http://twitter.com/anitasearchguru> <http://www.linkedin.com/in/mysearchguru> <http://pinterest.com/cohwill/organic-seo/> <https://www.facebook.com/mysearchguru/> <https://twitter.com/anitasearchguru> On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 8:42 AM, <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Russell, > > What do you consider to be the "participation limitations of GoogleGroups"? > > David > > -----Original Message----- > From: LISTSERV List Owners' Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] > On Behalf Of Russell Hunt > Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 6:07 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [LSTOWN-L] HISTARCH list has vanished completely > > A couple of reflections from a long-time, but not especially knowledgable, > listowner. I'm surprised about ASU here; my impression is that they've been > a pretty reliable host for academic lists for a long time. On the other > hand . . . many universities seem to have come to the conclusion that > listservs are, um, old hat, and expensive, when people could use more > trendy social media. That seems to me flat wrong, since in general "social > media" assume that if it's more than 24 hours old it's not only > forgettable, but hey presto! already forgotten. A substantial number have > decided, or are deciding, that LISTSERV is too expensive to justify for the > on-campus use it's getting. I've had to move one smallish group to > GoogleGroups, and I know of another academic listserv that had to do the > same because the host university dropped LISTSERV. The result has been that > discussion has been essentially extinguished by the participation > limitations of GoogleGroups. If you have to move this list off ASU, I wish > you luck looking for a suitable host: it's not going to be easy. LISTSERV > isn't, and shouldn't be, cheap. > > > > -- Russ > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: LISTSERV List Owners' Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] > On Behalf Of Charles Clausen > > Sent: February-16-17 3:46 PM > > To: [log in to unmask] > > Subject: Re: HISTARCH list has vanished completely > > > > LSoft's ListPlex service, which provides hosting, is here: > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www. > lsoft.com_products_listplex.asp&d=AwIGaQ&c=SgMrq23dbjbGX6e0ZsSHgEZX6A4IAf > 1SO3AJ2bNrHlk&r=dOGCMY197NTNH1k_wcsrWS3_fxedKW4rpKJ8cHCD2L8&m=ebUT0_ > TcNv_FD99fz0tu_Ul7B6smOSbedD9WRmTf3Hs&s=t1OXd05zaQJwpcWPg0pQc3P6j2wJvu > VLnVqEM2FADHU&e= > > > > This is for paying customers. Historically, they have donated hosting to a > few non-profit orgs (I don't know if they are still taking on new groups): > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__ > community.lsoft.com_scripts_wa-2DLSOFTDONATIONS.exe-3FINDEX&d=AwIGaQ&c= > SgMrq23dbjbGX6e0ZsSHgEZX6A4IAf1SO3AJ2bNrHlk&r=dOGCMY197NTNH1k_wcsrWS3_ > fxedKW4rpKJ8cHCD2L8&m=ebUT0_TcNv_FD99fz0tu_Ul7B6smOSbedD9WRmTf3Hs&s= > Y5t2pjivBhMeNb83l1a1ocZhMMAstKWLAStOF2JrKU0&e= > > > > Not listed here is a group of cancer lists to which they donated services > back in 1996. The non-profit org under which they were organized has pretty > much dissolved over the years, but LSoft continues to host several of the > lists, some of which are very active. > > > > Charles Clausen > > ppml-info.org > > > > On Thu, 16 Feb 2017 09:21:25 -0700, Anita Cohen-Williams < > [log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > > >In the meantime, if I can get the list back and all the archives, I > > >think I need to move it to another host. 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