I also think the idea of redistributing some of the ARPAnet lists on BITNET/NetNorth/EARN has merit. However, it may be a big help just to do this for 3 or 4 lists... It may big that a large portion of the traffic is provided by a small number of lists (the old 80 / 20 rule). What are the big lists? I have heard that SF-LOVERS, INFO-IBMPC, and AILIST. Maybe a pilot project with an agreeable moderator would be a good idea. I do have one concern. I think "Eric's" LISTSERV has many good features. I have had the code for a while. However, due to other duties I have not yet put it into production. As with any software, it takes a while not only to debug the software but for the software to "mature". One problem with the use of the new LISTSERV that Eric has alluded to is the need to be careful when the lists are set up. One one list I have been informed that I have been put on three different hosts in about as many days! Whats more, one of these was in Germany and it apparently had trouble handling the mail as I kept getting two sets of "error mail" for every item on the list... Now North Dakota is a bit remote in the US but it is not near Germany... :-) Anyway, I am sure, knowing Eric's proven talents, that the new LISTSERV will be a good solid program. I obviously have a vested interest in reducing traffic on the CUNYVM-WISCVM link since I connect to WISCVM also, but BNEnet redistribution would also reduce the gateway load. Marty