I want it to be subscription= by owner, although I will add mostly anybody to the list. It sounds more serious, and makes sure that weenies don't add themselves to the list just for the fun of it. Above all I do not want to give the impression that I'm distributing LISTSERV to just anybody (including stu- dents). I know that this list is only for DISCUSSION, but other people may not know. Especially, the people who can get me in trouble do not know. I've suf- fered enough from the problem of students running bogus relays without getting into the same **** with LISTSERV. Eric