LISTSERV might support BSMTP in a future release, but right now it doesn't. However, only three of the 41 servers have a release < 1.5, so it means we have 38 servers that know about DISTRIBUTE. Now it would take from 5 to 15 minutes to write an exec which takes a BSMTP job as input and creates a LISTSERV DISTRIBUTE job as output. The gate- way then sends the thing to LISTSERV@nearestnodetoWISCVMwhichhasaFRECP11-LIST SERV, and it gets distributed with acceptable efficiency in the states, and excellent efficiency in Europe since we *do* have servers at the hub nodes unlike the USA. This would probably divide the load by 5 for the european recipients. It's easy to install, easy to use, efficient, transparent to the user, etc. The file would have to be distributed as a FILE and NOT as MAIL since ARPA-mail headers usually cause the Crosswell MAILER to choke, but what the heck? LISTSERV would just add a blank line on top of the mail item and that's all. Who's the WISCVM gateway contact? Eric