A couple of comments. This is the sort of thing that if done by the Bitnic people would be criticized as incompetent and arrogant and they don't know what they're doing. Yet I don't see that opinion expressed here, for the most part. Furthermore, causing one's slightly backlevel server to crash will only server as ammunition by those opposed to LISTSERV at their site to stop running it altogether. I'm willing to agree that people not at 1.5h (or maybe even g) should be removed from the backbone, but don't crash their server. It is not your place to decide what priorities should be at other sites. There may be good reasons why people did not put up a new release. There's my two cents. Bill