For my two cents worth... qualified mainly as distributor of Relay, Eric has reached the 'cutoff point' where frustration sets in and you just want to say 'forget it'. Everyone that has been in this spot (Eric for this, Richard Schafer for Mail, Alan Croswell for Mailer, et al) can probably tell you the same thing... in spite of your best efforts, you still have problems. Not to sleight anyone in the chain in particular, but after all, they (and I) are providing a free service, generally with no monetary compensation at all (at least my work is off-hours from my real employment). The last thing you want to hear is anything in a demanding tone that you 'fix or address right away'. Similarly, we can not take a 'take it or leave it' stance without aggravating someone as well. The point I'm trying to make is, I suppose, that you should remember that you are getting a 'freebie', no charge, no obligation, etc. And in light of that, consider the alternative (ie, nothing). If you were paying for the software and for maintenance, you have a right to scream. If you are not, you are lucky not to have had to write it in the first place. Don't bite the hand that feeds you. You don't contribute to our paychecks; in fact, you're getting a hell of a deal out of the scenario. So granted, Eric may have over-reacted to the flak over the updates. Well, who is to blame? Both Eric and we should calm down and be more mature about the situation. It's no fun taking responsibility for any public-domain service you make available to the network; it's even less tolerable when you have to take constant abuse simply because you took the initiative to help. If you are still upset over the situation, I suggest you try making *any* generalized utility of your own available to the net. It's an eduational experience, to say the least. <Jeff> ****************************** * "Young lady, you need immediate surgery." * "Doctor, I'd like a second opinion." * "All right. You're rather ugly, too." * (The New Yorker) ****************************** +-----------------------------------+----------------------------------+ | Jeffrey R Kell, Dir Tech Services | Bell: (615)-755-4551 | | Admin Computing, 117 Hunter Hall |Bitnet: [log in to unmask] | | Univ of Tennessee at Chattanooga |Internet address below: | | Chattanooga, TN 37403 [log in to unmask] | +-----------------------------------+----------------------------------+