I find it interesting how there are so few, yes - so few, that use Listserv and we are already having, what appears to me, potentially, a software version problem. I believe that before we consider doing any more drastic upgrades to Listserv (and maybe even development work on a global basis) we might consider getting everyone to 1 level. Yes, I know that this has been attempted once, but apparently it has not worked. sorry for flaming - Michael Gettes