Good point, Jose Maria. As it is shipped, 1.5j will NOT activate any kind of automatic subscription expiration. If the NIC decides to activate this feature, they must take whatever steps are necessary to make sure that this does not degrade the quality of the service provided to other users. If I ever get a flame about "why does LISTSERV send this to everybody on the list, it's confusing, etc", I'll just forward it to BITNIC :-) Peer lists are automatically exempted from subscription renewal of course. Eric