Well it was just a bug in the case handling in LSVSUBSC, ie the subscribe command did not perform the 'NJE case conversion' performed by all other modules. LSVSORT will not consider [log in to unmask] as a duplicate of [log in to unmask], but 'eric@frecp11' and 'ERIC@FRECP11' are considered the same person. The same logic is used in all modules, NJE address --> upcase, but it was missing in LSVSUBSC because the search target was 'origin' which is by definition never upcased. So now RAGAN would not be allowed to subscribe under different cases. Eric