>A server always believe that it is up to date. It can't know when it's >outdated. Just because we're the 10th of december doesn't mean that we >should have the VERS8712 update installed, for example. So how do you >want a hint as to which server is outdated?? /Eric One possibility is for the message to list ALL listservs which touched that piece of mail on its way. Certainly it is one of those listservers. They might also include the date/time of their network configuration files (BITEARN NODES, PEERS NAMES, LINKSWT FILE, whatever else) and version of listserv. Given this, a human can most likely figure out who to complain to, which reminds me, the message should also contain the name/address of the maintainer of each of those listservs. -njg