Sigh. 1. You can ask LISTSERV to send you back a copy of your own postings. I personally find this stupid and useless and etc, but some people do like it and they can request it. The default option is not to get a copy of your own stuff. The command to change this is 'SET listname REPRO'. 2. The list owner can request that the 'Sender:' be set to 'garbage@rubbish' if he so desires. I think I have explained several times about the problems of setting the 'Sender:' field to the list maintainer, and why it shouldn't be set to LISTSERV, and I will not repeat myself. If you don't remember what I said, just waste your own time looking up archives. Eric