Leonard, if you'll agree with me that RFC822 headers of mail coming from internet lists usually are 30 lines long (or more), and you suggest (well maybe it's not exactly what you just said last time, but it's what is usually suggested) that LISTSERV should just add its own 'Received:', a 'Sender:' pointing to a human mailbox, and send the stuff via BSMTP, then we're talking about a lot more lines than we're generating now. If what you meant is that LISTSERV should still clean up the headers, I withdraw what I just said but I'll suggest that you had a private fight with the internet freaks who think LISTSERV shouldn't even touch the headers. Finally, I would like to point you to the announcement of release 1.6a, which describes the way that you can, today, without mods, ask LISTSERV to send you mail via BSMTP, with a 'To:' field that doesn't contain your name , with only 1 copy per node rather than 5 (assuming, of course, that the node in question is BSMTP-capable, which is the case of a minority of BITNET nodes). Eric