I have received a couple of comments about the editor business. Basically, everybody agrees that the small nastygrams with the blurb are a pain to discard and should be removed in an "ideal" system, and that putting the mail in question in the body of another note (which is what is presently being done when the editor is a non-BITNET address) is also a pain. "Resent-" tags would be fine in case the note doesn't already have any, except that if the editor subsequently resends the message to LISTSERV (that's the way most people handle lists where the editor is just "filtering" the messages rather than actually editing them into a digest), the original "From:" will be turned into "X-Resent-From" or "Passed-From" or whatever, and the message sent to the list will say "Originally from LISTSERV@nodeid", which is not very informative. I would therefore like to propose the following change, and hear your comments about it: 1. Remove the short nastygram that notifies you of the arrival of the message to edit. 2. Send the message "as is", with a couple "X-Comments:" lines added which tell the editor that this message has been sent to him so he can decide what to do with it, inside a BSMTP envelope. With the exception of the added "X-Comments:" lines, which LISTSERV will show only to FULLHDR recipients if the note is resent by the editor to the list, this will look exactly the same as now to BITNET editors, in PUNCH format rather than Netdata/Disk/whatever. It will solve the double-header problem for Internet people, and the note will still come from its original address if resent. In addition, I propose to add a new keyword, "Editing= Filter | Digest" (I'd be glad to hear suggestions for a more appropriate name, I'm apparently too tired to come up with anything sensible). The default would be "Digest" and would work as now, with the changes mentioned above. "Filter" would cause LISTSERV to insert "Ed:" in front of the subject before resending the note to the editor, who would then be expected to resend it back to the list (rather than logging it into a digest file) if approved. LISTSERV would detect the "Ed:" (or "Re: Ed:") in the subject of the resent note, remove it, set the "From:" origin to that of the "From:" field rather than "Resent-From:", and add an "Approved-by:" tag with the contents of the original "Resent-From:" tag. This way all the messages wouldn't look like they come from the same person, you could make database searches on the actual origin of the message, etc. Eric