1. It's not my fault if the people at BITNIC didn't do what you wanted them to. 2. It is a fact of life that in this network, it takes about 6 months for such a change to be ACTUALLY effected (ie effected at over 90% of the sites, rather than 25% or so). 3. LISTSERV@PSUVM accepted your request, because it was running with the latest BITEARN NODES with you as NAD for SUNRISE. 4. You have to understand that each LISTSERV is running with the local version of BITEARN NODES, and that in a number of cases this is very old because the postmaster doesn't have time or is too lazy to update it. LISTSERV@PSUVM can't know that, and has no reason to reject your request. 5. The REXX error is because your job was quite a bit large, and most LISTSERVs run with only 3M of storage. REXX provides *NO* possibility of error recovery in case of storage exceeded. Sending 3 or 4 smaller jobs should do the trick. Eric