>Huh? That many sites willing and able to maintain their Listserv without >any kind, form, or shape of support? The situation, as of the last LISTEARN SITES file, is the following: 1. 15 EARN sites signed the LISTEARN agreement; 2 of them got 1.6 later. 2. 8 other EARN sites ordered 1.6 from me. 3. The EARN BoD issued a directive for all EARN backbone site to sign the LISTEARN agreement. As far as support is concerned, the status is the following: - 13 sites get LISTEARN support from Turgut. - 10 sites get 1.6 service from me. - 1 site gets support for their 1.5o server from me because my job is, for the time being, to take care of the 3090 it is running on. - 22 sites, ie about 50% of EARN LISTSERVs, are totally unsupported as far as Turgut and myself are concerned. There are a few of sites which are still working on getting the necessary paperwork done (which can mean finding out who is going to decide and who is going to sign and whether or not the clauses need to be amended and what about the internal regulations and what is the advice of our legal service and...) to get 1.6 from me. I assume this is also true for LISTEARN. More importantly, there are a number of sites who, after having spent some time doing the kind of things I mentioned above to get 1.6, are now faced with an order from the EARN BoD to sign the LISTEARN contract, which cancels any 1.5o or 1.6 contract with me. They have now set aside the 1.6 paperwork, started on the paperwork necessary to get LISTEARN signed, and will then have to restart the 1.6 paperwork (which becomes longer because the LISTSERV License Agreement has been cancelled *in writing* and therefore needs to be reinstated in writing). Eric