>Here's a site that 1) tells other sites to send mail via MAILER, >2) doesn't have MAILER!!!, 3) bounces mail to From:, not Sender:. What did postmaster@cudenver say when you pointed this out to him? ---------- Mark J Strawcutter BitNet: MJSTRAW@IUP Director, Systems and Data Communications InterNet: [log in to unmask] Indiana University of Pennsylvania AT&T: (412) 357-4000 Indiana, PA 15705 "you can't nail jello to a tree"