> c) nastygramming would be nice but then where do you send the > nastygram? Obviously you can't tell the affected users that they > don't receive mail because the gateway is broken (I had cases when > there was a domain-style mail rejected and I had an NJE address but > whenever you tried to send something there it was converted to > domain-style and then got rejected). Let's say that when you mail to "[log in to unmask]" you get mail from "[log in to unmask]" every hour telling you it has an MTA congestion but it will retry for another -34349834 hours so you should not worry. You apply action "discard without forwarding to postmaster" to the daemon address for YOUR sake, and for the network's sake you apply action c to user "*@xxx.DUH". Next time they try to send something, they get told they cannot use LISTSERV until the gateway gets repaired. You'll get a bunch of junk stuff from the daemon, which you will discard, but eventually the users will give up and stop sending commands. They'll put pressure on the gatemaster and there is hope that the problem will be solved. Eric