> Explicit gateways are not a good idea, generally speaking, because they > don't let the users send commands to the server. [log in to unmask] may > not be the same as [log in to unmask] - it could be [log in to unmask], or > [log in to unmask], or [log in to unmask] at the local site, etc. The problem > is that internet mail from SUVM doesn't work any more; this is a serious > problem, and it should be fixed, not bypassed through another box which > happens to use different routing. Correction noted. I just mean IF ALL ELSE FAILS, I'd use an explicit route rather than creating a gatewayed subgroup to solve that particular problem. Joe > > Eric